Avenging Chris Kyle?

It has puzzled me for a long time why when we hit a hornets’ nest with a stick, we blame the hornets when we are stung. As usual Ron Paul inserts a bit of wisdom on the subject:

“If Eddie Ray Routh had never served in the military, I’m of the opinion that he would probably not have killed anybody. He would not be imprisoned for life and Chris Kyle would be alive today. Much of the blame should lie with our foreign policy of interventionism and the VA’s faulty reliance on psychotropic drugs for treating the guilt associated with preemptive wars.”

I have to wonder what people have against these decent young men that they want to turn them into monsters. Politically incorrect as it may be to say so Kyle’s and Routh’s mission had nothing to do with protecting Americans’ freedom and everything to do with promoting an unachievable utopia on the backs of the productive people of the United States. Routh’s insanity and Kyles murder are a direct result of the delusional idea that there are enough resources left after Americans raise families and contribute to their communities to control the entire world.

It is hard not to hate the fools who take us along on their foolish mission.

Article about Routh’s cocktail: http://www.drugawareness.org/zoloft-lithium-withdrawal-american-sniper-killer-eddie-ray-routh-found-guilty/

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8 responses to “Avenging Chris Kyle?

  1. Doctor Paul’s comment (though hopefully lifted from a broader comment context, though I doubt it) is utterly absurd. But then again, Ron Paul is noted for his frequent simplistic solutions to complex problems. And here I always thought Doctor Ron Paul was an OB/GYN doc, but apparently he is also an expert in psychiatry. Ron Paul needs to stay retired as he has always been a useful politico in that he is always available to offer the media sensationalist sound-bites.

    • I have to understand what you are saying here besides that it is a Pavlovian (or Fox Newsian) reaction to the name Ron Paul.

      Do you really think Routh would have gone on to assassinate someone if he were not put under the stress of the Iraq War and psychotropic drugs? Or is it that we saved the world (or USA) by destroying Iraq and this little incident was nothing more than collateral damage, insignificant in the means to an end (whatever that is)?

      On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 9:09 AM, alternativebyfritz wrote:

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      • I’m writing that to take this one incident and make a blanket insinuation that the exclusive cause of the murders is over-the-top irresponsible. Given the many thousands of returning veterans with PTSD or some other mental condition and who are on psychotropic drugs, we should thus (according the “wisdom” of Ron Paul) see mass murders all over the country. I understand his desire to avoid war and the fact that he believes all of the problems in the world are caused by U.S. interventions, but to take this one incident and blow it up into blanket result of soldiers going off to war is patently silly. Find another cause and effect scenario. This one is ill suited to the points you and Ron Paul persist in making. We get it.

      • By the way, you should check other information regarding Eddie Ray Routh. The guy never saw any combat, so I guess Dr. Paul is suggesting that simply being shown how to shoot a weapon causes people to go on murderous sprees.

        While it’s unclear what factors might have contributed to Eddie Ray Routh’s actions, his military record, released to The Washington Post and other news orgs., does not indicate he was ever engaged in direct combat.

        He joined the Marine Corps in June 2006 and served four years as a small arms repairer/technician, a job that primarily involves working in an armory on rifles and other weapons. He served in Iraq between September 2007 and March 2008, aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Bataan from May 2009 to December 2009, and then in support of earthquake relief operations in Haiti from January through April of 2010.

        Routh did not receive the Combat Action Ribbon, the Navy Department decoration that recognizes those who “directly and actively participate in ground or surface combat,” as the Navy and Marine Corps Awards Manual indicates. Marines and sailors can get it a variety of ways, including engaging in a firefight, facing direct exposure to an improvised explosive device detonation, and participating in a clandestine mission in which they are restricted in their ability to return fire even though it is likely that they will be attacked. None of these situations applied to Mr. Routh.

      • That’s interesting about Routh’s history in the service and a good point in the argument combat didn’t trigger his mental problems (not that military service, itself couldn’t do that). It speaks to a much broader issue that should be addressed and that is cause and effect of a huge number of social ills that are supposedly going to be fixed by further government intervention. A little imagination could find them in everyday life and industry and the unforeseen consequences are costing us a fortune (such as safety and mileage standards for cars).

        I kept going back to find where Dr. Paul believes all the problems of the world are caused by US interventions and couldn’t find it. Ben Stein, Arthur Laffer and Sean Hannity giggle amongst themselves at Paul’s supposed stupidity believing that, but you simply made a mistake.

        The fact, since you are stating them, remains we had no business in Iraq ever and history would read quite differently if Routh were a mailman and Kyle were digging ditches for a living instead of spending our tax dollars on the other side of the world. We’ve all gotten hung up on debating details that shouldn’t exist at all.

        On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:29 PM, alternativebyfritz wrote:

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      • Went and saw the movie tonight. The guy ignores his family to go fight a war based on lies (the 9/11 attacks were perpetrated by Iraq). I consider the family as second to self as basic government. In the movie the guy was a jerk to his family who shoulda told him to get lost so they could find a decent husband and father. The wife tries (to her credit) and he seems to come around at the end. Maybe the sequel will be about the other guy Routh murdered.

        On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Fritz Groszkruger wrote:

        > That’s interesting about Routh’s history in the service and a good point > in the argument combat didn’t trigger his mental problems (not that > military service, itself couldn’t do that). It speaks to a much broader > issue that should be addressed and that is cause and effect of a huge > number of social ills that are supposedly going to be fixed by further > government intervention. A little imagination could find them in everyday > life and industry and the unforeseen consequences are costing us a fortune > (such as safety and mileage standards for cars). > > I kept going back to find where Dr. Paul believes all the problems of the > world are caused by US interventions and couldn’t find it. Ben Stein, > Arthur Laffer and Sean Hannity giggle amongst themselves at Paul’s supposed > stupidity believing that, but you simply made a mistake. > > The fact, since you are stating them, remains we had no business in Iraq > ever and history would read quite differently if Routh were a mailman and > Kyle were digging ditches for a living instead of spending our tax dollars > on the other side of the world. We’ve all gotten hung up on debating > details that shouldn’t exist at all. > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:29 PM, alternativebyfritz comment-reply@wordpress.com> wrote: > >>

  2. I had to bite my tongue around relatives the other day when they were extolling the virtues of Chris Kyle (and the associated movie) and saying exactly what they would do personally to Routh “if they were in charge”. Ok, so we’ve elevated someone to hero status who is a “legal” murderer of humans and demonized someone who clearly suffers from mental fragility due to the stresses of a war we threw him into under the guise of doing some good in the world?

    How are we A) surprised and B) justifying this with a straight face? I’m just flabbergasted.

    • i went to the movie at the Windsor tonight. Usually people ignore the credits at the end. Tonight they sat and continued to watch the screen. They were more impressed with Eastwood’s work than me. I was pretty dissapointed in the movie, being a lifelong Clint Eastwood fan. He’s done better work. But then football season is over. We gotta root for something.

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